too quick to subject cuts at the pentagon. meantime, the current defense secretary leon panetta is making history on the way out the door. joining me now, retired u.s. army general stanley mcchrystal is the former commander in afghanistan. and former cia director and retired u.s. air force general michael hayden. i'm the only one without a military title this morning. i want to start out with chuck hagel because he's what's top on the minds of the pentagon. from what you know of chuck hagel, and he would be the first enlisted man ever to run the pentagon. the first vietnam vet, from what you know, what sort of reception would he get from the military? >> i think it would be fine. i know senator hagel, he was on my oversight committee when i was in the intelligence community. he was a member, and this is not a universal condition, he was a member that you could talk to, have an honest dialogue, not necessarily disagree. you can always speak with him and frankly given my time in uniform, that's a tremendous attribute. i actually